Comments on: RealNetworks: Make $$$ Now, Worry About the Law Later http://blog.copyrightalliance.org/2008/09/realnetworks-make-now-worry-about-the-law-later/ Copyright Information Mon, 15 Mar 2010 04:15:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Alan Schenk http://blog.copyrightalliance.org/2008/09/realnetworks-make-now-worry-about-the-law-later/#comment-3687 Alan Schenk Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:23:31 +0000 http://blog.copyrightalliance.org/?p=304#comment-3687 I don't dispute that the copyright holder has rights, but what about the poor consumer confronted by new methods of content distribution. E.g. he/she has diligently purchased DVD's for numerous years and now would like to stream that content to his/her television by a media server, such as Apple TV. Without making a copy of the DVD this is currently impossible to do. Are you suggesting that the studio's should get a second crack at the same consumer, asking him/her to purchase a digital (DRM'd) version downloaded from whatever service, in order to avail themselves of the flexibiltiy of watching a film, previously purchased and owned on a DVD on their Apple TV? What exactly is being protected here, the studio's right to squeeze the consumer for more money for the same content? I don’t dispute that the copyright holder has rights, but what about the poor consumer confronted by new methods of content distribution. E.g. he/she has diligently purchased DVD’s for numerous years and now would like to stream that content to his/her television by a media server, such as Apple TV. Without making a copy of the DVD this is currently impossible to do. Are you suggesting that the studio’s should get a second crack at the same consumer, asking him/her to purchase a digital (DRM’d) version downloaded from whatever service, in order to avail themselves of the flexibiltiy of watching a film, previously purchased and owned on a DVD on their Apple TV? What exactly is being protected here, the studio’s right to squeeze the consumer for more money for the same content?

]]> By: The Copyright Alliance Blog » Blog Archive » The Stifling Innovation Meme http://blog.copyrightalliance.org/2008/09/realnetworks-make-now-worry-about-the-law-later/#comment-3108 The Copyright Alliance Blog » Blog Archive » The Stifling Innovation Meme Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:28:05 +0000 http://blog.copyrightalliance.org/?p=304#comment-3108 [...] the debate surrounding RealNetworks’ RealDVD copying service. I’ve written on how the service does not in fact promote fair use and how in fact if the service were allowed to go forward consumers would be harmed, but it’s [...] [...] the debate surrounding RealNetworks’ RealDVD copying service. I’ve written on how the service does not in fact promote fair use and how in fact if the service were allowed to go forward consumers would be harmed, but it’s [...]

]]> By: The Copyright Alliance Blog » Blog Archive » RealDVD Empowers Consumers — NOT http://blog.copyrightalliance.org/2008/09/realnetworks-make-now-worry-about-the-law-later/#comment-2851 The Copyright Alliance Blog » Blog Archive » RealDVD Empowers Consumers — NOT Sat, 04 Oct 2008 00:15:28 +0000 http://blog.copyrightalliance.org/?p=304#comment-2851 [...] prompted by news of the RealDVD service by RealPlayer that offers to do that or by the news that litigation is now occurring between RealPlayer and MPAA over that service, but given that the issue has been on my mind I was [...] [...] prompted by news of the RealDVD service by RealPlayer that offers to do that or by the news that litigation is now occurring between RealPlayer and MPAA over that service, but given that the issue has been on my mind I was [...]

]]> By: Patrick Ross http://blog.copyrightalliance.org/2008/09/realnetworks-make-now-worry-about-the-law-later/#comment-2821 Patrick Ross Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:59:39 +0000 http://blog.copyrightalliance.org/?p=304#comment-2821 Pak Tam, Best of luck, glad you found us. Stop back anytime. Patrick Pak Tam,

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]]> By: Patrick Ross http://blog.copyrightalliance.org/2008/09/realnetworks-make-now-worry-about-the-law-later/#comment-2820 Patrick Ross Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:58:23 +0000 http://blog.copyrightalliance.org/?p=304#comment-2820 Fair point, John. But there is a US Supreme Court decision that says a VCR is fair use. RealDVD is not a VCR. The only decision I know of regarding making a copy of a CSS-protected DVD was from the US Copyright Office, and it refused to grant an exception from the DMCA for the purpose of back-up copies, which is an even narrower use than the platform transfer performed by RealDVD. Don't forget, there is a new consortium of creative works producers looking for a way to move media across platforms, we don't want to discourage that effort. If we want studios and broadcasters to continue to offer alternative methods of viewing works, from streaming services like Hulu to download services like Unbox or Xbox360, we need to respect the restrictions placed on various media by the copyright owners. If we thwart an owner's license model and do what we will with the creative work with the help of a third-party vendor, we're looking at creators being forced to produce a one-price-fits-all model that benefits no one. Fair point, John. But there is a US Supreme Court decision that says a VCR is fair use. RealDVD is not a VCR. The only decision I know of regarding making a copy of a CSS-protected DVD was from the US Copyright Office, and it refused to grant an exception from the DMCA for the purpose of back-up copies, which is an even narrower use than the platform transfer performed by RealDVD. Don’t forget, there is a new consortium of creative works producers looking for a way to move media across platforms, we don’t want to discourage that effort.

If we want studios and broadcasters to continue to offer alternative methods of viewing works, from streaming services like Hulu to download services like Unbox or Xbox360, we need to respect the restrictions placed on various media by the copyright owners. If we thwart an owner’s license model and do what we will with the creative work with the help of a third-party vendor, we’re looking at creators being forced to produce a one-price-fits-all model that benefits no one.

]]> By: Pak Tam http://blog.copyrightalliance.org/2008/09/realnetworks-make-now-worry-about-the-law-later/#comment-2819 Pak Tam Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:54:13 +0000 http://blog.copyrightalliance.org/?p=304#comment-2819 I am seaching for some idea to write in my blog... somehow come to your blog. best of luck. Pak Tam I am seaching for some idea to write in my blog… somehow come to your blog. best of luck. Pak Tam

]]> By: John Gordon http://blog.copyrightalliance.org/2008/09/realnetworks-make-now-worry-about-the-law-later/#comment-2808 John Gordon Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:45:58 +0000 http://blog.copyrightalliance.org/?p=304#comment-2808 Patrick, where is it written that a business model can't be based on fair use? Building VCRs and DVRs is a lucrative, legal business model based almost entirely on fair use. Patrick, where is it written that a business model can’t be based on fair use? Building VCRs and DVRs is a lucrative, legal business model based almost entirely on fair use.

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